![]() ![]() If he was pinging the same as the rest of Finland on German servers, it's unlikely this discussion/flame/argument/whatever you want to call it, would be happening. I think Matias' internet should be the main focus of this topic honestly. NL refuses regardless of this and would happily use a German or even a Dutch server, and doesn't bother coming up with a reason to refuse apart from "it's not a big difference anyway, and you never asked for this before." About the match you linked, looking at the lineups I think most people would agree that Finland would've won that even if they all flew to the US to play that match. Changing the server during a match is a minor bother. Do you think there is more packet loss in one direction compared to the other direction? Finally, Finland isn't asking for anyone to go through any huge inconvenience. This doesn't seem to be reflected in latency numbers. You're saying that the routes from NL to FI and vice versa are heavily in favour of the Finnish team. On a German server, many Dutch players still have a ping under 48, while 48 is the lowest latency any Finnish players (possibly apart from Swanidius) can have. What I don't understand is why the suggestion isn't good enough for NL. So even splitting the servers 50/50 would leave NL with a slight "advantage." I understand this is splitting hairs. As to the ping differences on a Finnish server, one or two finnish players have a very low ping (about 10), while the rest hover around 40 or 48, and the Dutch players all ping 48 there (someone correct me if I'm wrong, please.) In contrast, on a Dutch server, the average ping of the entire Dutch team is lower than the average ping of the entire Finnish team on a Finnish server, and a few of them also have a ping around 10 there (again, someone correct me if I'm wrong.) In addition to that, the Finnish team's average ping on a Dutch server is higher than the Dutch team's average on a Finnish server. Matias's mobile internet didn't occur to me when writing the comment and yeah, in hindsight it would've been more transparent to mention it. That probably makes it sound like I'm trying to say that a German or even a Dutch server would be heavily one-sided. ![]() I'm pushing the point, because people keep replying to me without actually answering to what I'm trying to ask. At least the Americans had a good point (even if they went about making it in a ridiculous way). ![]() Your prior games have also been without incident. Just a reminder: - Easy Finland win, played entirely on a Dutch server. Tell Matias to pay for real fucking internet, this is his own problem, no one elses. As much as I keep thinking about this, you already have a fair setup. Though I have limited data to back this argument up with, just as you have limited data to say that one map on each server is fair. I also suspect that everyone connecting to a German server would be more fair than making the Dutch connect to Finland as the routes would be heavily in the favour of Finnish connections to NL. You're talking about one player with a marginaly higher latency (12?) when connecting over mobile internet (I like how you failed to point that out to everyone by the way). You're making it sound like this is a heavily one sided setup, when it simply isn't. We played 50/50 vs usa on us servers, and that gave us the idea of playing half of the final on fi server. Imo Aniky should have pretty easy decision here as an admin. Cupra is holding back with these arguments: CupraToday at 7:07 PM "There isnt or there might be Try other locations He has played 95% of his games since returning on non finnish servers including the upperbracketfinal If he really cant handle it you have walle lettu hazz but im not giving in to forfeit manipulation and I know its not coming from you" So his arguments are: "Because you didn't ask for fi server before, you can't ask now" and "Because you try to manipulate us with a forfeit, i'm not accepting" And our arguments are based on having the most fair servers for both teams, nothing else. It's sad that people are greedy like this. Because of their unfair behavior, the game will most likely be forfeited by FI. They are the clear favorite to win the match and on top of that they want the small ping advantage. On German server insane pings about 33 and Matias pings about 70. but Sebhes & co don't agree to play even one map on FI server, where they all ping 48. Finns asked that the match would be played 50/50 on fi/nl servers because it would be the most equal for both teams pingwise.
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